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How should we tackle obesity?
Topic Started: May 15 2018, 02:18 PM (746 Views)
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May 17 2018, 08:18 PM
It's also not always entirely eating habits that makes people obese. It's also a sedentary lifestyle. People should realize that if you get your a** up and be active and exercise you will lose weight and sometimes you can even get away with eating more or eating junk from time to time
Yeh, but how do you increase the chances of people getting the balance between their diet and exercise correct?
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May 18 2018, 08:25 PM
Meanwhile, it might cost twice as much, if not more to fix a wholesome meal from the grocery store and take anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour to fix. Why take the time and effort and cost to fix a healthy meal, when your local fast food provide you with a quick bite for a cheap cost? The whole thing is basically backwards. Healthier options that are necessary are harder and costlier to get while the less healthier options are less than 7 year old's allowance.
Is this definitely true in America? I'm unfamiliar with prices over there.

The only absolute I can see is that it's definitely harder and more time consuming to make your own meals.

Here I can buy a bag of carrots for literally 50p, a stick of broccoli for the same, a bag of potatoes for £1.50, a bag of lentils for £1 and then an onion and some celery for a further £1.
£4.50 plus some salt and stock cubes which should be a staple in any home and that does several litres of delicious soup.

Or I could spend £4.50 on maybe 3 microwave burgers which are a tasty snack at best.
Or if I go to Burger King that's not even ONE decent sized meal which doesn't even fill me up, s***'s crazy. Portion sizes in the US are different though.
A bacon double cheese burger meal tends to be about £6 and they're pathetically tiny.


I do know that food in the US is wildly unhealthy at the best of times though, I've seen a lot of people unused to corn syrup say that bread there tastes like cake.
Still, I can't imagine a bag of carrots would be extortionate. Laziness is definitely the biggest issue and it's one that could certainly be ironed out in school so that people build up good habits for later in life.
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I think the idea that making food at home is expensive needs to stop too. There are ways to prepare food for pretty cheap

But then there is still the convenience of fast food

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Yeh, but how do you increase the chances of people getting the balance between their diet and exercise correct?


This actually comes with experience. You'll eventually figure out how much you need to eat to lose, maintain, or gain weight. Or you can use a really simple calculator online to see how many calories you need depending on how active you are. And those are pretty accurate too I know from experience

Here's an easy one to play around with https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/macronutcal.htm
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May 19 2018, 03:15 PM
I think the idea that making food at home is expensive needs to stop too. There are ways to prepare food for pretty cheap

But then there is still the convenience of fast food

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Yeh, but how do you increase the chances of people getting the balance between their diet and exercise correct?


This actually comes with experience. You'll eventually figure out how much you need to eat to lose, maintain, or gain weight. Or you can use a really simple calculator online to see how many calories you need depending on how active you are. And those are pretty accurate too I know from experience

Here's an easy one to play around with https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/macronutcal.htm
What I mean is, how do you increase the likelihood, across a whole society, of:

1. People understanding the importance of exercise and a good diet
2. People believing they can do it
3. People finding the correct necessary resources
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1. This is common sense. Everybody knows these things are important
2. They need to find some inspiration. For example so many people look up to fitness youtubers and follow their advice
3. This is not as hard as people think it is. Do some push ups, go for a brisk walk, buy an iron gym pull up bar(the one you hang on your doorway, get some Dumbbells, do some body weight HIIT training. You don't even need to get a gym membership. There's absolutely no excuse. Just don't overthink it. You can start slow you don't have to start doing crazy stuff right away. Obese people can literally benefit from just a brisk walk in the morning
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1. This is common sense. Everybody knows these things are important
2. They need to find some inspiration. For example so many people look up to fitness youtubers and follow their advice
3. This is not as hard as people think it is. Do some push ups, go for a brisk walk, buy an iron gym pull up bar(the one you hang on your doorway, get some Dumbbells, do some body weight HIIT training. You don't even need to get a gym membership. There's absolutely no excuse. Just don't overthink it. You can start slow you don't have to start doing crazy stuff right away. Obese people can literally benefit from just a brisk walk in the morning
1. It actually really isn't I think, it should be but it isn't. Simple fact is a lot of people are pretty poorly educated and don't know quite how much s*** they're putting in their bodies.
Plus again the convenience and price angle, we know water is healthier than coke but coke is refreshing, tasty and cheaper. It's too easy to be unhealthy.

2. As someone who really struggles to find that motivation it's incredibly hard to get yourself out of that place.
I can literally only exercise right now because we have a dog. Asthma be damned, though that's a recent issue. I generally have a s*** amount of energy and have been that way for years.

3. What of physical ailments though? It can be very hard to make a positive dent in your health, especially since it takes so long. It takes months of hard work to see any results and if you're already struggling it's hard to pull that mental strength out of nowhere.
Or again the physical side.
I have asthma or some other unknown ailment right now, to the point were going up the stairs or bending down to get in or out of bed makes me feel pretty winded. Can't really go for a run, anything more than a standard walk is extremely draining and my upper body is the issue so weight lifting and whatnot is even worse.

What are my options? Really all I can do is try to eat better and continue walking my dog, the former of which I have been for years, the latter of which I have been for months.
No difference in health what so ever, I think I've gained some muscle weight and that's it, nothing that really helps me do anything.


It's not really as clear cut as that, especially not when you've been fuelled by bad habits years before hand.
I used to have ham and cheese sandwiches with white bread like three times daily some 6 years ago and beyond, plus your regular three meals a day and other snacks, which is obviously why I'm overweight today, all that f***ing bread and fizzy juice. Can't even imagine how many calories it was daily.
The pinnacle of bad habits.
Which has only made it harder and harder to shake all this flab off.

In fact I look fatter now because my core muscles have been toned, healthier underneath but still fat on the outside. It's going to be a long a** time before it goes away due to all those s*** eating habits and stupid as it is, that leads to self consciousness, the emotional side of it is another story.
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1. True. But if you stop spending money on junk the money will go towards healthier foods which don't necessarily have to be so expensive. What you put in your mouth also comes down to discipline too. People need to be able to order water or something other than soda

2. This is hard for everyone especially if you haven't exercised in a long time. When you get into a routine that works for you you'll be fine. It's the discipline you need to get the ball rolling. Also, watch some work out videos on YouTube, read magazines, find someone who will work out with you(this helps a lot), the more interested in it you are the more motivated you'll be

3. I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be the first person with asthma to work out. Idk how bad you have it but I know a couple people with asthma and they exercise. If anything wouldn't it help? Just start off slow and don't push yourself too hard

Health conditions in general, even the classic "I have a thyroid problem I can't lose weight", are not usually an excuse from what I know. One of my friends has a thyroid problem but he still said f*** being overweight and he went and started eating better and exercising. And guess what? He lost A LOT of weight because even he is not an exception to how gaining and losing weight works(calories in, calories out. That's it) and will tell you anyone can do it.

Working out and eating better is going to take discipline and can take a lot of effort. I'm not saying it's easy. If it was easy everyone would do it. People just make it even harder than it is though

Honestly, just saying this stuff isn't going tackle obesity as a whole. What we need to do is something strict like Japan. That seems to be working

Something that would restrict people. It's pretty obvious that people have too much freedom with how unhealthy they can be
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